![]() ![]() Then again no point talking about the CAV45, since your initial question is based on the CAV50. However, the CAV45 is completely different, such that it utilises bigger transformers in the series 2 version and is much quieter. The CAV50 is fine with smaller systems and in much smaller rooms. Jahat, I cannot comment on other types of speakers but only the ones we put together for this customer and the small room he had. till our wives called us on our mobiles asking us if we were still interested in keeping our marriage together. We just sat there and listened for endless hours. That setup was not just a beautiful sound but also very revealing and highly engaging let alone the wonderful musicality and level of detail. I first heard the CAV50 driving a pair of SF mini-monitors and thereafter a pair of ProAc's Tablet something model, which we put together for a UK based customer who loved monitors and had a small room. Only comparable with some of the finest integrateds on offer, such as the Overture and Absolare, which cost a fortune! Once again, using very simple circuits, shortest signal paths and incorporating high quality parts, the CAV45 S2 has come a long way, redefining that term integrated at it's highest level. However, this is where CJ and the master JF and his team have come up full circle with the introduction of the CAV45S2. That was definitely the reason behind integrateds. Yes, agreed AJ, spot on and very valid points! You could even buy a separate amp to bi-amp. and then when you had the money, you could upgrade either amp or preamp while keeping the integrated as a component. In the beginning, you could buy an integrated. I can’t speak for others, but this is always in the back of my mind when I’m thinking about integrateds. Years ago the high end dropped this feature since it added variability to the integrated’s sound by itself, and also added the cost of two sets of RCA female jacks and the switch or jumper. But the upshot was that you could use the integrated three ways: as an integrated, as a preamp for some other amp, or as an amp for some other preamp. The reason is that, back in the day better integrated amps and their sibling receivers had both pre-out and main-in jacks. But that is the entire point of an integrated amp, so I don't know why people would put that down as a negative. The only "downsides" that I have heard is that you don't have a separate preamp/amp component to switch in/out of the system. ![]()
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